A weird analyses on the results for  Top 100 Public Intellectuals Poll conducted by Prospect Magazine (UK) and Foreign Policy (US). Do you see any difference as I did?

People who voted think religious preachers are more impotent intellectuals to this world than atheists. The same crowd was mentally aright  in 2005 . Also , now there are more intellectuals in south Asia and gulf compared to west.

Looks like whole poll has intention of appeasement.

2005 list :

1. Noam Chomsky : American philosopher, libertarian socialist
2. Umberto Eco : Italian critic, philosopher
3. Richard Dawkins : English biologist , author, atheist
4. Václav Havel :  Czech playwright, essayist, politician.
5. Christopher Hitchens : British author, journalist, and atheist
6. Paul Krugman :  American economist, liberal columnist, and author (Nobel)
7. Jürgen Habermas : German philosopher and sociologist
8. Amartya Sen : Indian economist,  Professor (Nobel)
9. Jared Diamond : American scientist , author Atheist
10. Salman Rushdie : British Indian novelist,  Atheist

2008 list

1. Fethullah Gulen : Turkish preacher
2. Muhammad Yunus : Bangladeshi banker and economist
3. Yusuf al-Qaradawi : Egyptian scholar and preacher
4. Orhan Pamuk : Turkish novelist
5. Aitzaz Ahsan : Pakistani Advocate
6. Amr Khaled :  Egyptian activist and preacher
7. Abdolkarim Soroush :  Iranian thinker, philosopher, reformer
8. Tariq Ramadan : Swiss religous academic
9. Mahmood Mamdani : Ugandan Professor Government
10. Shirin Ebadi :  Iranian lawyer, human rights activist

This is what you might have heard, or may be variant of it “This Maharashtra Police, I tell you, they are second to only the Scotland Yard of Britain – Big B“. I have heard the same about Hyderabad police , even Vijaykant (Captain) quotes in a movie that Tamilnadu police is second only to Scotland Yard.

Its a lie , it’s a bigger lie than “Salman Khan” can act !!. In fact, there are three lies in one statement.

• Scotland Yard is not a police force. Its an address of a (one of a )London City police force headquarters. Metropolitan police headquarters is at Scotland Yard , Westminster London with some post code.
• There is no citation that Met police is number one in world. Even if it there (citation needed) , on what basis ? what are the qualities analysed ?
• There is no reason that, one of Indian police force is second to that. Its just way to convince people with the information crowd is not going to verify , forever.

“Second only” song for those people who may go to google and try to verify if they were told it is “the best”. i.e. If you say “we are the best” could get “get lost…!” from some people. To convince these set of people try saying “we are not best , but we are right behind the best..” and the reaction would be “possible ..hm!!”.

There are so many other facts convinced with these kind of lies, for example :

• “India produces maximum wind power in whole world and Tamilnadu accounts for 80% of it”. This gem was by a key note speaker in a Electrical Engg. conference. He had authority on this topic since he was in Electricity Board.
• “It is scientifically proven that animal does not feel any pain if it is butchered as Halal and Kosher (religious way)”. I am not going to believe this till a dead bird or a goat explains me this logic. If you need proof , just go to PETA site and watch some videos on religious butchering, you will see everything yourself.

Its easy, you can always use words like ’scientifically’ and ‘technically’ to prove anything. See , I will create one theory right away : “Its is scientifically proven that “ginger-garlic paste” used in tikka masala has medicinal value and is a natural cure for Anthrax.

Here is one of the reasons “why you shouldn’t trust Indian media”:

The news was simple to understand “Taslima Nasrin heckled by God’s own warriors in one of the God’s own check post Hyderabad”. Just another event God wanted them to do.

I read all the news items in Google taking a cue from barberindian , for the same.

“Local politics behind attack on Taslima” – Hindustan Times
“Taslima Nasreen attacked in Hyderabad” – NDTV
“Taslima heckled in Hyderabad” – Economic Times
“Taslima heckled in Hyderabad” – The Statesman
“Taslima Nasreen, Poet, Attacked in India: Men Attack Her; Other …” – The Moderate Voice
“Assault on Taslima Nasreen” – Central Chronicle
“Taslima Attacked In Hyderabad, Journalists Protest” – Newspost
“Taslima Nasreen attacked in Hyderabad” – Zee news
“Andhra MLAs, 20 MIM activists manhandle Taslima Nasreen” – Daily news

and our own Desicritics:

“Taslima Nasreen Attacked by MLAs in Hyderabad” – Desicritics

If you want news items from international media

“Muslim Protesters Attack Bangladeshi Author in India” – Voice of America
“Muslim group in India threatens to behead Bangladeshi author” – EarthTimes

See any difference ? If you still dint get it, read any Indian news item on this topic. It will be written “Taslima a renowned writer from Bangladesh… blah blah was allegedly heckled by people belonging to one community.. “

Morals of the story :

• Indian media does not give you news, they give rumours and gossips.
• No one including left, right, middle, women rights organizations , secularists, online petition makers; I_dont_have_to_work_to_do people ( Shabana Ajmi , Arundati Roy ) etc etc., seems to be bothered by this. This is secularism
• Taslima or Dalai lama, welcome to India, we give you freedom to breath and eat dal-chaval. If you do anything more you will be allegedly beaten to death!
  

update:

Hyderabad, August 11: The Hyderabad police have registered a case against controversial Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreen, who was recently attacked by workers of Majlis Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM) in Hyderabad, for allegedly creating ill-feeling among communities.

Moral of the this story : “Ulta chor kotwal ko date “

This is how FBI officers find out truth.

Robert: you swear to God
Eric: excuse me !!
Robert: swear to god that everything you just told me is true
Robert: No .. I am not gonna do that , I wouldnt lie …

This is another conversation between two FBI agents.

Robert : You know why the Soviet Union empire collapsed?
Eric : …….????Good morning?
Robert : I made a carrier studying them, they were smarter than us – more devious, more determined why did they fail ?
Eric : ..?
Robert : Godlessness. Atheism

Both conversation are from Breach - a movie based on real story.

When was the last time you exclaimed “Oh my god” in public ? and which god was it ? You don’t now ?? well , you better know it. Some one might sit on your neck and prove your exclaim is very offensive to him. Also it would be politically and theologically incorrect and big time violation of his rule he has read.

Here is a guys who went on proving the same stuff all over again. To mention some:

1. God came and told me “I am god. If any other gods come and claim that they are also gods, its wrong. please note down there is no god other than me”. Now there if there are any , that is a violation.

2. God said that he doesn’t have a face , if any other gods claim to have face thats again violation, since my god said so.

so on , you ll find many such logical reasoning in this video.

This directly from senate. Someone’s god gets offended while Rajan Zed wanted pray for his God.

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There are several Jokes on Adam and Eve, the first prophets. This political joke is my favorite among them. I read many versions of it , with Russians , Egyptians and Indians also. Pakistani version is very apt for the context. No offense .. but truth

A German, a Frenchman, an Englishman, and an Pakistani went to an Art museum and were spending some time in front of the painting of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. After observing the painting for a while an intrigued observer asked the four men where they thought Adam and Eve’s origins could be from.

The German said: “Look at the perfection of their bodies. She with her slender and well-formed figure and he with that athletic body and bulging muscles. There is no doubt they must be of German origin.”

Immediately the Frenchman reacts! “C’est Impossible! One can clearly see the eroticism that is exuding from both figures… She so feminine? He so masculine… And both so aware of the impending temptation… They must be French!”

Shaking his head in disagreement, the Englishman comments: “Oh No, Chaps it can’t be! Note the serenity on their faces, their delicate pose, the sobriety in their gestures. They could only be English.”

After a few more seconds of contemplation, the Pakistani exclaims: “I do NOT agree with ANY of your theories! Look closer, they do not have clothes, they do not have shoes, and they do not even have shelter. All they have is ONE apple to eat and to top it all off it is prohibited, there is fatwa on it! They don’t protest and they STILL think they are in Paradise!?? Clearly, these two can only be Pakistanis!!!”

And this is latest controversy on Adam and Eve, the first prophets – A Pakistani version. This cartoon was published in a Pakistani Magazine some time back. As expected there was a fatwa on the editors. And Guess what was the complaint ? Cartoonist painted the couple “naked”. Guess I need to read holy books again , these guys questioning my memory

clipped from www.flickr.com

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The story Ramayana* is his entire life journey starting from his innocent youth, his mastery over skills in winning Sita, his role as dutiful and obedient son to adhere to his father’s words while aware of the flagitious intensions of his step mother. He gives up all the worldly richness and sets away to spend 14 years in jungle. Sita being his wife accompanies him followed by Laxman, Ram’s younger brother.

They spend quite an adventurous and romantic** life in the forest. Sita finds her world in her husband Ram and experiences an unspelled love for him. Everything works fine when one day, Sita gets abducted by Ravana while Ram is away to fulfill one of her impossible wishes. Ram does everything possible to get back his love. He gathers a huge army, builds a bridge across an ocean, does all that he could. Finally, he succeeds to kill Ravana and gets her back. With this they complete 14 years of stay in jungle and they return to their kingdom after which they should have lived happily ever after.

But the story takes turmoil instead, Ram’s story ends here and Sita’s story begins. This happens when a subject of Ram’s kingdom whispers “how could Ram trust Sita, who been with Ravana for so long”. Ram wants a test now, Agni-Pareeksha – A test to check purity of a woman, by entering into fire. Exactly this part of the story becomes hard to digest. This is where so many questions arise and is left unanswered.

• Did it serve right for a person like Ram ‘the so called God’ to come down to such a cruel act?
• Is he setting example for all men or rather his followers to commit such an act?
• Or is he doing right by following well set example from his predecessors?
• Ram must have done justice to his kingdom? But why not to his wife? Had he really loved her he wouldn’t have banished her at such a crucial moment.

Did it serve her right to undergo another painful punishment after she had been a victim and had already suffered years of pain in the evil’s custody?

Why anywhere in the whole epic Sita does not have any views? Why didn’t she refuse when they were to leave for jungle (her sister Urmila does that)? Why didn’t she not ask back “why should I jump into fire?” “Don’t you trust me?”

We often come across people stating ‘Ram jaisa pati mila hai’. Can we really consider Ram as an ‘example for perfection’?

If these questions are answered they can be called as Sitayana. It should contain the entire possible thing Sita would have had in mind, but not presented in Ramayana. Nina Paley an Indian born professional animation moviemaker is releasing Santayana. She says:

“We never really know why Rama banishes Sita. Common interpretations resemble rationalizations and apologies: Rama “had to” abuse Sita to maintain the traditional order of his kingdom, in which the opinion of the lowliest man ranked higher than the life of any woman. As literature, Rama’s behavior towards Sita makes no sense…except it’s so realistic. It is the Ramayana’s ambiguities that make it so compelling.”

I strongly feel, movie is going to make some level of controversy and protest. If you are planning to participate, please make sure you have answers to all the questions Ms. Paley is asking.
Some clips of the movie have already reached youTube reservoir. I have posted two of them.

Sita in Love

Ram in Doubt

* Ramayana – the most popular mythological epic dwells around Ram –ninth incarnation of Lord Vishnu as believed by most of the Hindus. Ram is another name for a ‘perfect man’ and is symbolized for loyalty, respect, courage, justice and unbound love.

** Their romantic story in forest is only next best to Kalidasa’s Shakuntala. They sit watching “Kaumauda” near lake cheek to cheek whole night long with “rAtrirEva vyamsIt” (a great literary work in Sanskrit).

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I am done; I am not atheist any more. Thanks for all those who continuously tried convince me that “almighty God exists “(like credit card salesmen). Thanks for all those mails and pamphlets. Now that I have opened my mind and accepted God exists, please help me further to understand “which package” of god is suitable for my life style. I heard they come in different features. (Sarcasm is intended in whole paragraph)

And to all those who are still atheists, here is a story if a holy Barber which opened my mind (or closed … or whatever)

A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. They talked about so many things and various subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God,

the barber said: “I don’t believe that God exists.”

” Why do you say that?” asked the customer.

“Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn’t exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can’t imagine loving a God who would allow all of these things.”

The customer thought for a moment, but didn’t respond because he didn’t want to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and un-kept. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and

he said to the barber: “You know what? Barbers do not exist.”

“How can you say that?”Asked the surprised barber. “I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!”

“No!” the customer exclaimed. “Barbers don’t exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.”

“Ah, but barbers DO exist! What happens is, people do not come to me.”

“Exactly !”- affirmed the customer. “That’s the point! God, too, DOES exist! What happens, is, people don’t go to Him and do not look for Him. That’s why there’s so much pain and suffering in the world.”

In one of the last posts, I mentioned illustrations of gods in carvings of beautiful mythological stories. That was about good people like Krishna, durge bad people like mahishasura etc. Now time to write about ugly ones. The gods still living on earth, and making money…

Some thousand years a mythology writer left a space for a sequel. there is going to be tenth avatar of Vishnu. He will come and remove all the evil in Kaliyug and the name’s Bond .. James Bond.

and finally he came … !!kalki bhagvan is an ex-insurance (LIC) agent in Perambur according to Google. Estimations say his assets are Rs400 to Rs600 Cr. He and his enlightened wife went through a morphogenesis field. Read more on kalki bhagvan , and read some warnings and about money lust too.

satya sai-baba was born Satyanarayan Raju in 1926 in the village of Puttaparthi, Andra Pradesh, India. read more .

why he is god ? in his own words. “Have any of them been able to accomplish at least one-thousandth of what Sai Baba is doing? No, no, no!”

“No other individual, or no government for that matter, has been able to provide free education or free medical care”

So he must be god … eh ?

I have written about this goddes here.

“Mataji Nirmala Devi”… is founder of “sahaja yoga”. please take time and visit and get enlightened. Don’t miss a attractive flash illustrations where colored liquids move in human body up and down in tubes. That is “sahaja yoga” if you dint get it.

I have listed three of them. I am sure there will be many of them. I am planning to constantly update the list as I read more about more such gods. If you wish to contribute please tell me the god/goddess name.

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Alas… !!! Americans are fine with a caveman or a zombie as their president, than having an atheist sitting in whighthouse. Schizophrenics or cannibals are not there in the list, I guess even they get better votes than a non-believer.

via Graceful flavor

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These guys have some attitude, kind of attitude only James Hetfield had copyright so far (as I know)

Nail in my head
From my creator
You gave me a life
Now show me how to live

Lyrics: Audioslave – Show Me How To Live [Artist Lyrics]

And with the early dawn
Moving Right Along
I couldn’t buy an eye full of sleep
And in the aching night under satellites
I was not received
Built with stolen parts
A telephone in my heart
Someone get me a priest
To put my mind to bed
This ringin in my head
Is this a cure or is this a disease

Nail in my head
From my creator
You gave me a life
Now show me how to live

Nail in my head
From my creator
You gave me a life
Now show me how to live

And in the after birth
On the Quiet Earth
Let the stains remind you
You thought you made a man
You better think again
Before my role defines you

Nail in my head
From my creator
You gave me a life
Now show me how to live

Nail in my head
From my creator
You gave me a life
Now show me how to live

And in your waiting hands
I will land
And roll out of my skin
And in your final hours
I will stand
Ready to begin
Ready to begin
Ready to begin
Ready to begin

Nail in my head
From my creator
You gave me a life
Now show me how to live

Nail in my head
From my creator
You gave me a life
Now show me how to live

Show me how to live
Show me how to live
Show me how to live
Show me how to live

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In India believers have some undefined dislike towards animal products into places of worship. They are not allowed into temples and places of worships. I really don’t buy the idea of we all started as vegetarians and animal lovers, but I feel they are introduced into the religion to convince the followers to show god loves animals too.

Major three or four religions in India want its followers to be vegetarians. Most of the followers successfully convince their gods, that they will be vegetarians on specific days of the week (Fridays Lakshmi, Saturdays Vishnu etc).I saw so many of them while ordering in a hotel “two Rotis … and then …hmm… today what ..??Tuesday… alright … Butter chicken!”.

People don’t enter temples if they had taken any non-veg that day, and most of them can’t explain why?

These all confusing rules, people made them and the same people find loopholes not to follow them, Then why to have them at all. Why restrict only to temples.

There are some more of them

• Kerosene are not supposed be used in any of places of worships. They are considered to be animal product, came into form by tones of animals and plants died billions of years ago.
• Sugar is not used in any of the Hindu religious ceremonies. The reason is sugar is prepared from Jaggery, and while doing it they polish jaggery with some animal product (I guess it is leather). So any sweet is cooked is using Jaggery directly.

I have listed certain things which are missing in those rules.

• All gods and goddesses wear silk. All Shwethambaras and Peethambaras presented to gods are silk, which are results of boiling thousands of silkworms. Similarly honey, which is obtained killing or burning thousands of honeybees.
• Worships are accompanied with drums, which of course cannot be made of plastic. One priest explained me (proudly) drums (and similar) have leather of camel (lizard leather for small ones) and sting instruments have horse skin (stings made out of that).
• Krishna idols have feathers on his head. Idols have Hamsa-thulika-thalpa (bed made out of feathers of a swan), and Chamara (Fans). I am sure no peacock or swan volunteer and donate its feathers, it I supposed to be bought from a hunter

I see similar so many things, which animal loving people are forgot to mention in the books.

Two things to conclude.

We were never vegetarians originally. Sacrifice wouldn’t have had a meaning otherwise. Neither were we animal lovers (remember Ashwa-medha-yaga?). Every now and then priests get bored they create something like this ,  “vegetarians only”.

Following Friday Vegetarianism religiously is just hypocrisy.

Searching flickr tags I found some wonderful and funny pictures on atheism. They are on god, atheism and religion. I have posted four of them here. Yenajoy

God, the imaginary friend, originally uploaded by ronco.

Atheist GOAT, originally uploaded by beef_mage.

Refrigerator Magnet, originally uploaded by redtimmy.

Religion, originally uploaded by www.DaveWard.net.

Believers need reminders. “Trust me “, “Believe “, “I am watching you” etc. I found one of them in a trekking spot, translates “Oh… my God …”

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People find different ways to satisfy their egos. They see themselves big. So big they want to have a fan base who bows to them. Who will bow to them? Don’t worry there are big names who don’t know why they are bowing.
They are above every one, you, me, law and the nation… yes nations. Generally “they” are called to be “jagadguru”, or “shree shree shree…” (“amma” or “Mata” for females) i.e. gurus of the world (universe to be specific).

Check out these photos. This lady is a goddess (oh no … not one more). And she wants national flag below her legs. “Mothers’ are above nation you know.

“Mataji Nirmala Devi”… Never heard of her. Seriously. Search results say she is founder of “sahaja yoga”. If you interested to go there don’t miss a attractive flash illustrations where colored liquids move in human body up and down in tubes. That is “sahaja yoga”

photos via mutiny

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Jaya and Vijaya were twins who worked in a security company. They guard almost all Hindu temples.

Some five hundred years ago General of Aurangazeb army mallikafur who was running a demolition drive, stopped by. That time he had an assignment to demolish illegal building from India’s map. The criteria were, the building is illegal if it was hindu/Jain/Buddhist places of worship. Technologies ten was not advanced then, or may be they dint import a bulldozer or a land mover. He used to manage with hammer.

He stopped by here

Malli: Dude … who is inside??

Jaya: “God…!” (In “mere pas ma he” style)

Malli: no way…Man..!! he ain’t no here…( he used his 7 th scene here, he supposedly had 8 scenes and also IQ number 8 )

Vijaya: “he is, name’s keshava… Chenna keshava. (Bond style)

Malli: That’s bullshit man…!!! There is no god except mine… Guys lets have a party…This building is illegal.

Jaya: All gods are same.

Malli: Guys… first cut these two hands….

Over. Remaining photos are here and here. Jaya-Vijaya lost their jobs here. Their decedents are teaching India secularism. Mallikafur got a great reward, later he had similar assignments for a long. His decedents are working with Taliban. Aurangazeb was best emperor ever in India. The secularism defined by him is widely adopted in India, even after 500 years. Some time later Mohammed bin tughalak (IQ 4) gave a tough competition in terms of taking important decision.

Fact: this place is badly butchered. Every person embedded in wall lost any one of their body part. Main Idol had public execution. Ornaments, money, valuables etc are taken away.

Please note : I dont have any sentimental attachment towards any religion and faith. They are all same stuff for me. But i hate someone tries to prove ” my shit smells better that your shit “. Please call yourself pseudo-secularism ( exmples by sandeep) .

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This video tries to give a complete picture on history of religions. It covers five major religions, major events which changed course of history, and how they spread/vanish in last 5000 year. It’s a beautiful video.

But few questions on it…

They start first religion to be around 3000 BC, started with birth of Krishna. What was there in India before him? (Rama is not a Hindu??? What about Veda’s). Historians are very much fond of including Ramayana and Mahabharata into history. I really don’t know how they justify all the events happened in those epics.

Why not go back to 10000 BC and include all the epics and holy texts (all of them ) into history? I heard they are interesting, like “Adam, Eve and dinosaurs walking side by side”.

purAnamityeva na sAdhu sarvam , na chApi kAvyam navamityavadyam
santaha parikshatart bhajante, muDhah parapratyayena buddhihi

पुरणमित्येव न साधु सर्वं न चापि काव्यं नवमित्यवद्यं |
सनः परीक्श्तरत भजन्ते मूढः परप्रत्ययेन बुद्दिः ||

- Unknown

Can be interpreted as :

Concepts need not be valid just because they are told in books (holy books especially )), mythologies etc. Nor things are right if they are modern. Gentlemen test and then trust, fools believe what is told and written.

I don’t remember who wrote it, guess it is Brutruharai. This is the best spelling I can give for the quote here. If anyone finds better please comment. And also if you find a similar one.

Quote is quite relevant. People when can not justify what they are practicing and what they believe, just hold some outdated books responsible. “Since it is written in…”

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My, god! This beauty… Freshness on face…

How can he just think about these things?

How can he (moon) compete with?

This moon (my girlfriends face)…

This moon keeps me awake whole night

While that moon does not sleep for no reason

(Rough translation of a bollywood song from the movie Tere naam)

Now this poet (lyricist) has compared moon with girlfriends face. How can he just do it?? I declare a “Fatwa” against the lyricist, Err… Who was it anyway?? Ok Chuck it… I declare it on Salman khan (because he starred the movie… that’s it … don’t ask more).

I declare all the people in the world (including those who are in cradle and also those who are in ICU) to not to hum the song / listen / watch (also any salman khan’s). And the reasons why…

• The moon considered being holy (don’t ask how) in our religion.

• It is considered to calculate the human destiny and his afterlife.

• It used to give light for lovers before candle light diner was invented.

• One holy book has a mention on a particular page (I have not read it any way) that moon is not supposed be compared with anything.

• And also for several other religious reasons… Which can’t be revealed to general public What authority I have?? Do I really need one..??

I also extend the fatwa on Shakespeare, who have done the same mistake (I haven’t read them either)

Note: Fatwa is an opinion (which is treated as order) which is declared by a highly politically influential religious leader. These fatwa’s are above national law. Some example which actually declared in
India lately

1. Fatwa against authors , because they write

2. Fatwa against national song , since ” it compares mother nation with god ”

3. Fatwa against Republic day parade, reason is to be discovered yet.

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